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the question at the heart of the election that the world wanted the answer to. is the united states capable of serious course correction? and i think both on november the sixth and in the so-called fiscal clef, sokol negotiations that followed, we are telling the world that the united states is not capable of serious course correction, and that will have catastrophic consequences for america. lou: when you say catastrophic consequences, tonight it seems as if we are, this broadcast has been organized to prove your point. bill archer joined us, former house ways and means committee in 1996 who was president at almost the destruction of the government under president clinton and speaker gingrich. we have hisexperience, also the experience as a member of the budget commission put together by president clinton which came to nothing. just as the simpson bowles commission came to nothing. and as this fiscal clef being managed by his president does t look promising. >> that is really the point you brought up earlier. when you have european levels of spending which we now have come up you have tra
in the past election, yet they want to create an immigration system that gives vises with one hand while taking them away from minorities with the other. lou:joining as now, the co-author of numerous anti illegal immigration laws in a kansas secretary of state, also with us, the attorney, executive director of the national immigration forum. good to have you with t through no fault of their own, brought into the country by their parents. what are your reactions? >> let me react to both bills. i agree that the s.t.e.m. jobs act as an example of a perfectly good bill. what we were doing since 1965, as every year he we were giving away 50,000 green cards in a lottery all over the world. thi what it does is take thoseves t t5,000 visas and gives them awa in a way that serves oured d national interest to people who have advanced degrees that can help our country in science and technology. in contrast, i think that is a disaster. it is just a rehashed amnesty version of the dream act, that's what the achieve act is. i'm hopeful that republicans will chill the wine.amnesty there a lot of good
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